If people don't have the capital to do it themselves,

that's typically what they'll start with.

This is the labor.

Have I have a special guest for you?

Avery Carl is in the House CEO and founder

of the short term shop.

And she's also an author of something

that I think is going to be very pertinent here.

As I believe we're in a recession,

that's short term rentals and long term wealth,

something I subscribe to.

She also has a great podcast called the short term show

that we'll talk about.

Welcome to the podcast Avery.

Thank you so much for having me.

Awesome.

Look, the hottest thing to me is short term rentals.

And the reason I think that it's such an important thing

to talk about, such an important thing to know about,

is that unlike other traditional real estate opportunities,

it varies by region and by opportunity no matter

what the interest rates are, what the prices are,

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