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Oprah's Super Soul

Author Terry McMillan and her Gay Ex-Husband

Oprah's Super Soul

Oprah

Society & Culture

4.632.9K Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2020

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Oprah looks back on best-selling author Terry McMillan's riveting appearances on The Oprah Winfrey Show and explores how McMillan's intense rage almost destroyed her. Oprah, for the first time, reveals how uncomfortable she was during McMillan's 2005 appearance with her ex-husband Jonathan Plummer. McMillan learned after they married that her husband was gay. Oprah also recalls McMillan and Plummer's Oprah Show reunion five years later. Plus, Oprah talks about one of the guests that changed her life forever and helped her understand the value of forgiveness. Also, a viewer from New Jersey opens up about how the show gave her the strength she needed to forgive her estranged father, after not speaking to him for eight years.

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0:00.0

I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of

0:07.5

the most valuable gifts you can give yourself is time, taking time to be more fully present.

0:16.0

Your journey to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right

0:23.0

now.

0:24.0

Over the years, we did many shows with people who showed us how anger set them back, how

0:32.5

holding on to the past set them back.

0:35.4

And I can't forgive her and I think about it every day and I'm so angry because the damage

0:41.0

is done.

0:42.0

And I blame each and every one of them, everyone that had anything to do with it.

0:45.4

And I can't forgive him for what he did.

0:48.6

This is what I know for sure. I know that if you allow the past to define your present

0:59.0

that you never actually really get to live, the life that you're meant to live because

1:03.8

you're always holding on to what was and always holding and defining yourself by what was

1:09.9

or what should have been or what could have been.

1:13.3

And one of the best lessons for me with this is learning that revenge is another way that

1:19.4

the ego shows itself.

1:20.9

When you think that you deserve to be treated a certain way, you think you deserve to have

1:25.8

things a certain way, you think that you deserve, deserve, deserve, deserve and other people

1:30.5

have done you wrong instead of, again, living from the true self.

1:37.0

Now we all know Terry McMillan when she wrote, Stella got a groove back and so many women

1:44.1

love that story because it allowed them to think of themselves as still sexually vital

1:49.9

and being attractive to younger men and doing your own thing and allowing yourself to

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