All right, welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery podcast on Michael Jervé.

And the idea behind these conversations is to learn, is to learn from people who are

on the path of mastery, to understand what they're searching for, to understand their

strategies, the practices, the ways that they understand the world, their unique psychological

framework, if you will, so that we can better understand maybe ways that we can incorporate

some of those insights and practices in our own lives, and we certainly want to pay attention

to the mental skills that they've used to build and refine their craft.

Now this conversation will be different, and the format is the same, but what's different

is that this conversation is with a gentleman who is clearly right center at the home of

the way I like to see the world, he's off access, meaning that he does it just a little

bit differently, and it does it his way, and he's found a path towards authenticity and

insight.

And so this conversation might strike you, and it challenged me at the center, and I hope

it does you as well, and it definitely got some juices rolling for creativity and just

really to look within to better understand and to be honest to the truth of the way that

we're generating our life efforts, and what we're doing on a day-to-day basis, and I have

so much more room to grow, and I have so much room to do better, to be a better man, to

be a better performer at what I do, that this conversation was a gem.

You might not have known his name, and that's all about what this conversation, or these

conversations on the Finding Mastery podcast are about, it is easy to pay attention to

the Leonardo da Vinci's because they're phenomenal, and the world knows their name, and also

learning from those that are on the path that have similar insights, just maybe not as

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