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🗓️ 1 August 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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This is an important episode if you've followed the Oakland County Child Killer (OCCK) case.
Interview with the anonymous author - Delayed Karma.
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A couple of notes - H. Lee Busch died in 2002. Elsie Busch died in 2003. This means that when Chris Busch's name was made public in 2006, his parents were already deceased.
I am remastering the long-form series 'Don't Talk to Strangers' about the Oakland County Child Killer for re-release in late 2025.
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0:00.0 | Jennifer vanished sometime in the overnight hours. |
0:04.0 | Right now there is no trace. |
0:06.0 | Investigators say evidence lead them to believe that she's dead. |
0:09.0 | Stick my nose back on the trail. That's all I can do. |
0:13.0 | This is already gone. |
0:15.0 | Already gone. |
0:17.0 | Already. |
0:18.0 | All ready. All right. |
0:30.4 | Today we are speaking with the author of Guarded by Jackals. |
0:34.9 | This anonymous author wrote a detailed account of the Oakland County child killings. |
0:38.8 | Not a look at the crimes themselves, which have been covered in numerous books and podcasts, including My Long Form Podcasts, Don't Talk to Strangers, |
0:44.8 | which released back in 2018. What makes guarded by Jackals different is that the book isn't |
0:51.3 | another rehashing of the crimes, but a look inside the investigation, or lack thereof, |
0:57.5 | into a series of child murders that shook Metro Detroit in the 1970s. |
1:03.5 | Before we get started, I need to mention that we are recording |
1:06.8 | at the Podcast Your Voice Studio on Greenfield Road in Southfield. |
1:12.3 | This puts us at the geographic heart of where these crimes took place almost 50 years ago. |
1:19.2 | We are so close to where Christine Mahalik lived and to the 7-Eleven store where she was last seen. |
1:26.4 | We are similarly close to the office building where the |
1:29.2 | body of Mark Stebbins was found in 1976. We are also about a mile from the Berkeley home I was living in |
1:36.8 | with my grandparents when these murders took place. Even though I was a toddler at the time, |
1:43.3 | some of my earliest memories involve stern warnings about not playing in the front yard, |
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