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The World Next Week

Australian Submarine Deal, Asian Security Summit, Blinken in Finland, and More

The World Next Week

Council on Foreign Relations

Politics, News, News:politics

4.6845 Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

The International Atomic Energy Association reports on the nuclear-powered submarines that the United States and the United Kingdom will provide to Australia within the AUKUS alliance; world leaders and defense officials meet in Singapore for Asia’s premier security event– the Shangri-La Dialogue; U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken wraps up his Nordic tour with his final stop in Helsinki, meeting with Finnish officials to discuss North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) priorities; and NATO sends additional troops to Kosovo to respond to ethnically-charged clashes.   Mentioned on the Podcast   Frank Capra, Lost Horizon    Thomas L. Friedman, “NATO or Tomato?,” New York Times   Valona Tela, “Kosovo ‘Tactical Game’ Is A Strategic Blunder, Security Expert Charles Kupchan Warns Amid Balkan Violence,” Radio Free Europe Radio Liberty   “Turkey’s Election [Twitter Spaces],” Council on Foreign Relations For an episode transcript and show notes, visit us at: https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/australian-submarine-deal-asian-security-summit-blinken-finland-and-more

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0:00.0

In the coming week, a UN agency reviews a nuclear submarine deal for Australia.

0:07.0

The Asian Security Summit known as the Shangri-La dialogue takes place, and U.S. Secretary of State Blinken

0:12.0

visits new NATO member Finland. It's June 1, 2003, in time for the world next week. I'm Bob McMahon.

0:26.4

And I'm Carl Ann Robbins.

0:28.5

Carlo, let's start out by going nuclear.

0:30.5

And by that I mean nuclear power, of course.

0:33.8

Next Monday at the International Atomic Energy Agency's Board of Governors' meeting,

0:38.3

Director General Rafael Grossi will report on the AUcus Submarine Deal. That's the deal in which

0:43.4

the United States and United Kingdom help equip Australia's Navy with nuclear-powered submarines.

0:49.0

So why is the IAEA getting involved in reviewing and reporting on this?

0:53.6

So, Bob, when the AUKIS deal, and I love that term, was first announced in 2021, all of our

1:00.0

attention was on two things.

1:01.7

You know, how much it was strategic challenge would this pose to China and how much it really

1:06.7

infuriated the French.

1:08.2

As I'm sure you recall, the French were supposed to be selling diesel-powered

1:11.6

subs to Australia for more than $60 billion, and Washington and London cut this deal behind Paris's back,

1:18.7

and it took an enormous amount of groveling by the Biden team to calm Macron down, but they didn't

1:23.3

give them a taste of the deal, and this was going forward. What got very little attention at the time,

1:28.6

even, you know, I'm a nuclear nerd, were the arms control implications. We need to reinforce the

1:35.2

point. These are nuclear-powered submarines. They're not submarines carrying nuclear weapons. But their

1:41.5

nuclear reactors use weapons-grade fuel, in other words, fuel that could be used

1:46.8

in a nuclear weapon. The Chinese not surprisingly cried foul, claiming that the deal is a violation

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