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The Playbook Podcast

August 7, 2025: Dems’ new dividing line

The Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

Politics, Government, Daily News, News

3.9699 Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

As the humanitarian disaster in Gaza shifts American politics and opinions about Israel, the entire issue is quickly becoming the Democratic Party’s first foreign policy litmus test of the 2026 and 2028 cycles. Playbook’s Adam Wren and POLITICO White House reporter Megan Messerly look at how that’s playing out in Michigan’s pivotal Senate primary, which is a microcosm of the broader dynamics shaping the party: a divide that isn’t so much left vs. center or progressive vs. moderate, but institutionalists vs. disruptors. All of that, plus: President Donald Trump’s latest wave of tariffs went into effect overnight, and what we know about the latest rumblings of a coming meeting between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Adam Wren.

0:07.3

And I'm Megan Messerly.

0:08.8

It's Thursday, August 7th.

0:11.2

And this is the Playbook podcast.

0:13.6

This morning, on the 200th day of Donald Trump's second administration, I have the pleasure

0:19.8

of again welcoming Politico White House

0:21.8

reporter, Megan Messerly, to the show. Welcome, Megan. Great to be here, Adam. Let's get right

0:27.1

to what's driving the day. First up, as the humanitarian disaster in Gaza has shifted American

0:33.5

politics on both the left and the right, as well as opinions about Israel, the entire ordeal

0:39.7

is quickly becoming the Democratic Party's first real foreign policy litmus test of the

0:46.2

26 midterms in the 28 presidential primary cycles. And a ground zero for this whole discussion is none other than Michigan, the battleground

0:57.5

where a ferocious Democratic Senate primary between Representative Haley Stevens, State Senator

1:02.6

Malliam Maboro, and Abdul al-Said is underway. So Megan, essentially, as I've been reporting

1:08.8

this out over the last few days, across these three

1:11.6

candidates, you really have the full spectrum of the Democratic National Party's views on Israel.

1:18.3

And Representative Stevens, you have the traditional APEC pro-Israel view.

1:24.9

In Abdul-Aid, you have the pro-Ghasa viewpoint.

1:29.3

And then in Mallory-Memore, you have a new kind of Democrat who's coming in and is sort

1:34.9

of championing a third-way approach here.

1:38.1

And so I think it's interesting that in the battleground, that is Democrats most important

1:43.1

Senate seat to defend, arguably, you have

1:46.1

such a contentious primary on the left, even as Republicans have coalesced around Mike Rogers.

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