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The Playbook Podcast

August 6, 2025: The next big gerrymandering fight

The Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

News, Daily News, Politics, Government

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🗓️ 6 August 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

The White House is turning the screws on red-state elected officials to gerrymander new electoral maps and squeeze more GOP seats into existence ahead of the 2026 midterms. And the next big flashpoint comes not from Texas, New York or California, but Indiana, where Vice President JD Vance will be dispatched this week to meet with Gov. Mike Braun and push him to redraw the state’s congressional districts. Playbook’s Adam Wren and POLITICO White House reporter Megan Messerly talk through the thinking in the West Wing and the statehouse. Meanwhile, is the White House’s latest law-and-order messaging — whether talking about Washington D.C. or the so called Speedway Slammer immigrant detention center — a sign of a broader attempt to shift the dominant storyline in the news? All that and more on today’s Playbook Podcast.

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Adam Redd.

0:07.2

And I'm Megan Messerly. It's Wednesday, August 6th.

0:10.2

And this is the Playbook podcast. This morning, I have the pleasure of once again welcoming back our White House reporting ace, Megan Messerley. Megan, thanks so much for joining the show.

0:20.7

Of course. Great to be here again, Adam. Let's, thanks so much for joining the show. Of course.

0:21.3

Great to be here again, Adam.

0:23.0

Let's get right to what's driving the day.

0:25.5

First up, the biggest story of the day is once again, surprise, mid-cycle redistricting

0:31.3

around the country as the focus of the fight shifts from Texas and California to a number of other Republican-controlled states

0:39.7

where the White House is tightening the screws and pushing local leaders to draw new

0:44.7

gerrymandered maps. The latest flashpoint, it turns out, is Indiana. President Donald Trump

0:50.7

is dispatching Vice President J.D. Vance to Indianapolis Thursday to meet with

0:54.8

Governor Mike Braun. Unless there be any doubt about what's on the agenda, Governor Braun

0:59.5

told reporters yesterday that he thinks they're going to come into every state that's got the

1:04.8

possibility of a pro-GOP gerrymander happening. This is a fascinating development here.

1:13.2

And what's interesting to me is there's not a lot of appetite from the Republican supermajorities in the legislature to do this

1:19.6

from those that I've talked with. Even Mike Braun yesterday essentially said that there was no

1:25.8

commitment made to Vance coming here. They would talk about it.

1:29.1

They would also talk about a lot of other topics. The vice president's office confirmed his

1:33.6

visit for me late last night. Megan, we're hearing about Missouri and Ohio as well. But when we

1:39.8

pressed the White House earlier this week on what they were going to do about the Democratic walkout,

1:44.1

they seem to take a pretty hands-off approach. It's been really interesting to see on one hand,

1:50.1

this is something that President Trump pushed for, right, getting Texas to undertake this

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