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Hey, what's going on?

My name is Brand.

Producer Sherry is here, too.

If you ever want to stay in touch, we'd like that.

I'm at Brand Hanson page on Facebook if you ever want to look it up. And there's all pictures of cute, fuzzy animals. Yeah, there's a lot of animals going on right now. Yeah, information. Oh, there's, I put up a deer that's making friends with a rabbit, a baby deer. I saw that. I didn't see the whole thing, but I saw that you had. It's like 12 seconds long. You can. No, I couldn't. You bowed out after six seconds. It's really entertaining. Now, Sherry couldn't watch the whole 12 seconds, but boy, it's fascinating. You're going to love it. It's a brain handsome page on Facebook. You know, there's a problem. And isn't this just the way it is with everything? Everybody. If you love somebody, you're pretty much setting yourself up for pain.

I hate that, but it's true, especially if you love your kid.

Eventually they go.

My daughter's leaving in a few days for college.

I talked about it before, but it really is true about it, whether it's your kids or anybody,

if you love somebody, you're taking a risk, and I call it a risk, but it's almost a sure

thing at some point it's going to cause you pain, but the alternative is not to love people.

As you become more loving, if you forget, take it out of the parent child context it

could be anybody if you love people they'll leave or disappoint you or something

will happen to them or there'll be conflict or something but that's the best

pain imaginable is when it's because you've actually loved somebody. And you can protect yourself your whole life,

but what kind of life is that? You have to collapse inwardly so much

that you're not really being yourself as much as God created you to be.

And he made us to love each other. So in that sense, when people are like,

well, I'm a Christian now, so I won't have any more problems. Actually, you open yourself up to a whole lot more pain because you'll

start loving people and investing yourself in them. But that's the best way to live. It really is.

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