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The Quanta Podcast

Audio Edition: How a Problem About Pigeons Powers Complexity Theory

The Quanta Podcast

Quanta Magazine

Life Sciences, Science, Physics

4.7 β€’ 638 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

When pigeons outnumber pigeonholes, some birds must double up. This obvious statement β€” and its inverse β€” have deep connections to many areas of math and computer science.

The story How a Problem About Pigeons Powers Complexity Theory first appeared on Quanta Magazine.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Quanta Audio Edition. In each of these bi-weekly episodes, we bring you a story

0:10.9

direct from the Quanta website about developments in basic science and mathematics. I'm

0:16.0

Susan Vallett. If you have more pigeons than pigeonholes, then some pigeonholes will have two pigeons. If you have more pigeons than pigeonholes, then some pigeonholes will have two pigeons.

0:23.5

If you have less pigeons than pigeonholes, then some pigeonholes will be empty.

0:28.4

Obvious statements, perhaps, but behind this so-called pigeonhole principle is a powerful tool used to solve all sorts of computer science problems.

0:38.5

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0:47.7

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0:51.6

That's where Editor-in-Chief, Samir Patel, talks to our writers and editors about more of Quanta podcast. That's where editor-in-chief Samir Patel talks to our writers and editors

0:55.4

about more of Quanta's most popular, interesting, and thought-provoking stories.

1:04.1

They see a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, but for computer scientists, two birds

1:09.6

in a whole are better still.

1:11.7

That's because those cohabiting birds are the protagonists of a deceptively simple mathematical theorem called the pigeonhole principle.

1:19.9

It's easy to sum up in one short sentence.

1:23.2

If six pigeons nestle into five pigeonholes, at least two of them must share a hole.

1:29.9

That's it.

1:30.6

That's the whole thing.

1:32.0

But the pigeonhole principle isn't just for the birds.

1:35.3

Even though it sounds painfully straightforward, it's become a powerful tool for researchers engaged in the central project of theoretical computer science,

1:46.1

mapping the hidden connections between different problems. The pigeonhole principle applies to any situation where items are

1:52.7

assigned to categories, and the items outnumber the categories. For example, it implies that in a

1:59.0

packed football stadium with 30,000 seats, some attendees must have the same four-digit password or pin for their bank cards.

2:07.6

Here, the pigeons are football fans, and the holes are the 10,000 distinct possible four-digit pins.

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