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Intelligent Design the Future

Attorney Barry Arrington on Materialism, Morality, and Objective Rights

Intelligent Design the Future

Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture

Science, Philosophy, Astronomy, Society & Culture, Life Sciences

4993 Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

How is the job of a scientist similar to the job of an attorney? And how do you define evidence? On this ID The Future, host Casey Luskin continues his conversation with attorney and former Colorado House of Representatives member Barry Arrington about the arguments for intelligent design marshaled in Arrington’s book Unforgetting God. In this concluding segment, Arrington and Luskin review common objections to intelligent design and discuss the larger philosophical, cultural, and legal implications of the debate over intelligent design and materialism. Source

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0:00.0

What is evidence? It's actually, it turns out the definition of evidence. It's pretty simple.

0:06.6

Evidence is anything that tends to make a proposition more probable.

0:15.7

ID The Future, a podcast about evolution and intelligent design.

0:21.3

Welcome to ID the Future.

0:23.0

I'm Casey Luskin with Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture.

0:27.1

And today we have back on the show with us, Barry Arrington, an attorney and former member

0:31.1

of the Colorado State House of Representatives.

0:33.9

He earned his law degree from the University of Texas Law School.

0:36.6

And he's worked in a variety of interesting fields of law, civil litigation, non-profit law, and also constitutional law, doing a lot of work in the area of First Amendment law.

0:47.0

Also, Barry, some of your cases have gone to the Supreme Court before, and I know you have another case coming up.

0:52.7

So, Barry, I'd like to welcome you back

0:54.5

to ID the Future to continue to discuss your recently published book, Unforgetting God.

1:00.4

Well, thank you for having me, Casey. Now, in the first podcast we had with you, we talked about

1:05.3

some of your scientific arguments in the book for Intelligent Design. And I also mentioned that,

1:10.2

yeah, the book does also

1:11.6

make an explicit case for Christian apologetics. We're not going to talk about that really on this

1:16.5

podcast. But in this particular episode, what I want to focus on is you sort of, we laid a

1:23.6

scientific foundation for intelligent design with your work in the previous podcast,

1:29.0

but you also discussed in your book the larger implications of intelligent design for culture,

1:34.4

morality, and even law. And so I'd like to ask you some questions about that. But actually,

1:39.1

before we jump into that, you and your book have, actually one of my favorite parts of your book

1:44.1

is that you go through

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