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Hello and welcome to the History Extra podcast from BBC History Magazine, Britain's best-selling history magazine.

I'm Ellie Corthorne. Today's podcast guest is Yarn Bill.

Yarn is Professor of Viking Age archaeology and curator of the Viking Ship Collection at the Museum of Cultural History in Oslo, Norway. He's also head of this steering group for the

Yelestad Ship Project, which is the first also head of the steering group for the Yellowstad Ship Project,

which is the first Viking ship to be excavated for many years. Our content director,

Dave Musgrove, called him to talk Viking ships and to find out what's happening with the ongoing

dig. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you very much for joining us.

Well, I'd like to be here. Thank you very much.

So first question, a simple question, a stupid question perhaps, but it's my role in these things to ask stupid questions.

What do we actually mean by a Viking ship?

Well, I think most people think of Viking ships as those long raiding war ships that occurred at the coast of Europe. But really, if you're looking at the material that we have,

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