”At Least the Obama People Felt Bad" with James Risen and Jamil Smith

Past Due with Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

Ana Marie Cox, Open Mike Eagle, and Andrew Steven

Society & Culture, Arts, Performing Arts, Business

4.6 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2018

⏱️ 66 minutes

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James Risen, senior national security correspondent for The Intercept, joins Ana [01:14] to discuss the rocky relationship between journalists and the government, reminding us that Trump’s threats to press freedom are not unprecedented — and Risen would know, since both the Bush and Obama administrations took him to court over his reporting. He wrote about the experience, in a must-read piece, here: https://url.emailprotection.link/?a_64gq3nIS1JTwoUCTzOU0BEMTal24kTbYv7SAHyApgJQTz-aCpiV2hC7thv5GP8w02qq0C-KqxmYADRSi1AbGq7pH-WmboNGJquZv8onY911DoZFz7SDZ2btaA_DPEZ5rnHm7ZagZ2YiROhPXq0k6Z6_X0goiPm1nsOEo3icOF4~ Then, Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith) drops by [51:15] to make a case for why the term “guys” is problematic as a default when addressing each other. Ana and Jamil conclude it really, truly doesn’t take much to consider someone else’s perspective in every day interactions. We read all your emails and questions. Please send them to withfriendslikepod@gmail.com. Find us on Twitter at @crooked_friends. Thanks to our sponsors! Squarespace: Visit Squarespace.com offer code FRIENDS for 10 percent off your first purchase of a website or domain. The Great Courses Plus: Sign up for your free month by visiting thegreatcoursesplus.com/Friends. Stitch Fix: Go to Stitchfix.com/Friends for 25 percent off when you keep five items. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Anari Cox.
0:02.9	Welcome to With Friends Like These, a show about difficult conversations and uneasy
0:08.9	coalitions.
0:10.4	I have a friend of the pod, Jamil Smith, on the show today.
0:13.5	He is going to help me answer a question from a listener about language, about inclusive
0:18.3	language, and the word guys versus, I don't know, what else is there besides guys?
0:24.2	Jamil is going to help me figure that out.
0:26.4	But first, I'm going to talk to James Ryzen.
0:28.6	You may know his name.
0:30.3	He is a best-selling author, former New York Times reporter, Pulitzer winner.
0:34.4	He is now the Intercepts Senior National Security Corp.
0:38.1	and the director of First Look Media's Press Freedom Defense Fund.
0:42.1	I am excited to have him on the show because he will help highlight a relationship that
0:47.1	perhaps people listening don't think of as being uneasy, and that's a relationship
0:51.6	between liberals and the press.
0:55.3	We, I think, tend to take for granted the idea that liberal progressive types are more
0:59.4	friendly to freedom of the press than Republicans.
1:01.8	But James Ryzen has a very important story to tell about that, not being necessarily the
1:07.6	case.
1:08.9	So, James Ryzen coming right up.
1:14.5	So James, welcome to the show.
1:17.0	Thanks for having me.
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