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What's a day, ladies and gentlemen.

The wind and the rain have disappeared.

The sun has come out.

Heavens for Fend.

There might be a brushfire in the horizon over in Hackney over by the football pitches if you're not carefully.

It gets that hot.

We'll be talking about the weather, of course, a little bit later on. There's still a massive amount of panic going on in the BBC weather office where they aren't really happy yet that

it's got quite hot enough to make up for the 48 degrees that they keep saying it's going to get

to at some point this afternoon somewhere in the Mediterranean.

But we'll come back to that. John Rental joins us the first time in a while.

Certainly the first time since the by-elections of last week.

We'll be going through the tea leaves of what happened there.

The Tories have suddenly rediscovered that they might actually have a chance of winning an election

if they do away with net zero and they do away with all these green commitments

that they've made because actually the people are not very keen on them.

Maybe finally they've worked out if you don't just read UGov polls and you actually read

the roons of a by-election result, you can actually come to a different conclusion.

We'll also be examining this rather unusual story about why the UK has suddenly paid

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