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🗓️ 3 September 2021
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Center Co-Directors Bob Shrum and Mike Murphy are joined by journalists Carla Marinucci and Seema Mehta, strategist Roger Salazar, and USC Professor Jennifer Cryer to assess the campaign to recall California Governor Gavin Newsom. They unpack how the effort gained momentum, weigh criticisms for and against the recall, and discuss potential outcomes of the upcoming election.
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the bully pulpit from the University of Southern California Center for the Political Future. |
0:11.7 | Our podcast brings together America's top politicians, journalists, academics, and strategists from across the political spectrum for discussions on hot button issues where we |
0:21.5 | respect each other and respected truth. We hope you enjoy these conversations. |
0:29.4 | Mike Murphy, the inimitable Mike Murphy, is here with me. He and I will moderate this. Let me |
0:35.1 | introduce our panelists. Jennifer Cryer is my colleague in the Department |
0:39.1 | of Political Science and International Relations at USC Dornside. Carla Maranucci is a senior |
0:45.3 | writer for Politico's California Playbook. Seema Mehta is a political writer for the Los Angeles |
0:50.7 | Times. Both of them have covered presidential campaigns, statewide campaigns, |
0:57.0 | and are following the recall very closely. Roger Salazar is a media and communications |
1:02.4 | consultant and president of ALSA strategies, and he was once press secretary for Governor |
1:07.5 | Gray Davis. So I'm going to just throw out a more kind of general question |
1:11.8 | and let you all have a whack at it. What generated this recall and what was the rocket fuel |
1:18.2 | that got this long shot effort on the ballot? Anybody can start. Well, I think we should remember |
1:24.4 | that there were a half a dozen efforts to recall Gavin Newsom before this one took. |
1:30.8 | The original applications for those recalls were about issues like immigration, gas tax, had nothing to do with COVID. |
1:41.6 | It was COVID that was a rocket fuel, and it was the French laundry that let the fire, |
1:48.3 | essentially. To my fellow panels agree here? And also, I mean, I think we also have to remember |
1:54.3 | that the recall backers went to the courts to get four extra months for signature gathering, |
1:58.4 | and the Nusson campaign did not, you know, argue with that. |
2:01.5 | So that four extra months coincided perfectly with the worst of COVID, school closures, |
2:06.4 | business closures, rising hospital rates and just frustrated parents and, you know, frustrated |
2:12.2 | Californians. And that's also exactly when, as Carla mentioned, you know, Newsom had his infamous |
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