We have a real kind of almost meritocratic conception of lifting that it's like either you are born a

football linebacker and you lift weights or you're everybody else and you don't bother with weights because there's no reason for you to be strong, which like

Nothing could be less true. Everyone could benefit from like learning to squat or deadlift 135 pounds

You're like swear to god your life would be completely different

It would feel different every single day if you just learned to do this and I think we could benefit from that

Information sort of percolating a lot more

Hello and welcome to Wise is happening with me your host Chris Hayes. Well, this is a fun one today

Something a little different. I'm gonna tell you a story first and then we're talked to our guest

So the story is that in the fall of 2017

We had got a house upstate which I've mentioned before that's where we were during part of the pandemic and

We got one of those you know those benches that like a polster benches

You put at the end of a bed, but then you'd like store linen and them or whatever

So we had gotten one of those and I went over to pick it up

Thinking that it did not realizing it opened and you could put things in it

So I went up go over and it was like cheap like over stock calm thing

It was not an expensive piece of furniture

I went over to grab it thinking it was like 25 pounds, but it had been loaded with stuff

So it was like 125 pounds and in grabbing down to reach it. I like pulled out my back in a really gnarly way

like one of those like oh in the moment you realize

This is something bad has happened

That's probably gonna stay with me for a while so like I had to walk around

I couldn't like sit I had to lay down. I spent a few days recovering and then you know

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