Asif Kapadia: Pushing the boundaries of film-making
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4.3 • 537 Ratings
🗓️ 13 January 2025
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Summary
Sarah Montague speaks to award-winning film-maker Asif Kapadia. His latest film 2073 combines science fiction with documentary to paint a bleak picture of our possible future: a world destroyed by climate change, authoritarian dictators and tech oligarchs. Why produce something so political now?
(Photo: Asif Kapadia in the Hardtalk studio)
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Hard Talk from the BBC World Service with me, Sarah Montague. |
| 0:03.8 | My guest, in an interview recorded on January the 6th, |
| 0:06.7 | is one of the most acclaimed documentary makers working today. |
| 0:09.9 | An Oscar and BAFTA winner, his films about Ayrton Sena and Amy Winehouse broke box office records. |
| 0:15.9 | But Asif Kepardia's latest movie takes him in a very different direction. |
| 0:20.6 | It melds news footage with |
| 0:22.1 | science fiction to paint an extremely bleak picture of what the world could be like in |
| 0:27.0 | 2073, a planet destroyed by right-wing autocrats, tech oligarchs, climate change and our |
| 0:35.4 | indifference. He calls it a warning, but how realistic is it? And why produce |
| 0:40.1 | something so political now? As if Capadia, welcome to Hard Talk. |
| 0:44.8 | Hi, Sarah. Really happy to be here. Thanks. |
| 0:47.1 | Now, your latest film, 2073, sort of pictures itself as a true sci-fi horror. The trailer says, |
| 0:54.1 | this is not fiction. this is not a documentary, |
| 0:56.9 | this is a warning. Is it really what you think 2073 will look like? I mean, who knows what |
| 1:04.9 | 273 is going to look like, but I feel like all the signs are there. We're in the middle of something. Things are happening, they're happening really fast. And I don't know if everyone can keep up. So I just wanted to make a film, which was about a feeling that I had, of uneased, of fear, of worry. And also, I suppose I was thinking about what are we leaving behind for our kids? So the year 2017-3 is when my kids will be a certain age, I may not be around, but they will be. What are we leaving for them if we don't stand up and speak up now? Okay. And what you've done with this movie is to cut real footage of events now, whether it's protests, riots, effects of climate change, |
| 1:44.8 | with a fictional vision of the future, which, 2073, |
| 1:51.6 | which, I mean, it's a post-apocalyptic, |
| 1:54.0 | it is a terrifying world that you present. |
| 1:58.0 | I just wonder if the way in which you intercut these things, whether it is |
| 2:04.7 | fair, because you've also described it as a documentary. Is it fair? Fair is an interesting |
| 2:13.0 | word question to ask. What it is is based on fact. It's based on research. It's based on |
| 2:18.6 | interviews with experts. I wanted to make a film. I have made fiction films. I've made |
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