Welcome to Unstyled. I'm your host, Christine Barberick, co-founder and global editor-in-chief of Refinery 29.

Each week, I invite a notable person to come in and talk with us as we explore the funny, inspiring,

sometimes heartbreaking tales of life, work, and love, as told through the things that we wear.

To call Ashley Graham a quote-unquote model is a pretty big oversimplification. Yes, today's guest is a model and happens to be a legendary one.

But she isn't just sought after in front of the camera.

Ashley Graham is a multi-hyphenate to the max.

She has her own clothing lines aimed at body inclusivity.

The latest, a collection of chic and practical bathing suits called swimsuits for all.

She regularly drops truth bombs as a host at the Miss USA pageant.

And if you haven't seen her in Joe Jonas's toothbrush video, pause this right now, go watch it and come back.

Don't worry, we'll wait.

Most of you know Ashley Graham is the world's most famous quote unquote plus size model.

In industry speak, a plus size model targets anyone technically over a size four. But when we go shopping, plus size clothing starts at a size 14. See the

disconnect here? Add to that the majority of women here in the U.S. and many other countries around the

world actually identify as part of this category. Plus per se isn't a niche,

like some brands have led us to believe. And to Ashley, the term plus size is practically an illusion,

and just another way to put women in a box, which is exactly how she is leading a revolution

of the female form. Hi, Ashley. Hi. Thanks for being here on Unstyled. Yes, thanks for having me. This is awesome. I know. We're really excited. So I always like opening up. Well, I like to sometimes open up with talking about how you started your morning. It's early. I'm obsessed with rituals. I've heard that you don't really have any rituals. No. But tell us about your morning this morning. I woke up at 6. Got to the boxing gym at 6.30, which is Gleesons in Dumbo. I'm obsessed. My trainer, he trains like Usher and Common. Leicens is hardcore. Girl, he is insane. There's a big sweat stink in there. Yeah, there's a lot of fine sweaty men. Some fun. They are. So I got there at 6.30, left around 7.30, ran home, and got ready to come meet you. And in the cab, I had my breakfast. I don't know how I'm not having coffee right now and I'm still alive. It must be the boxing. Are you sparring it? No, girl, no. I'm too afraid. You know, I keep protecting the moneymaker. Oh, God, but it frightens me. You just mentioned talking about protecting your moneymaker. What's your moneymaker? My moneymaker's my face in boxing. Your face. Yeah, honey. Shake your money maker like somebody about to pay you. You have to protect

your moneymaker in boxing. I kind of keep making these coins, girl. So tell us about your

scouting moment. Okay, so I was 12 years old in a mall in Omaha, Nebraska. Why always a mall?

I don't know.

I think that's where they go to just...

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