The emails of hours we've gotten from fans who have like I was in this situation and I think things would have ended much differently if I hadn't known what to look for has been absolutely incredible. Hey everybody it's literally this is literally a great one because I love true crime as you know I love podcasts and I love Ashley Flowers and what she has done with

crime junkie crime junkie a if she invented the crime with Crime Junkie, Crime Junkie AF.

She invented the crime, true crime genre in podcasting.

And I'm going to get the tea on all the cases I'm obsessed with,

and I am going to ask her how I can avoid serial murders.

Let's get rocking. I'm excited to have you on the show. This is I'm with a real podcast

professional so I get a little nervous. You get nervous I'm incredibly

nervous. Well then we're a perfect match this This is the match that America has been

waiting for. First of all, South Bend, Indiana, yes. That's where I'm from. I'm

in Indianapolis right now. I, know my family is from Indiana

Anderson Anderson Anderson that yeah you got to go to the

racetrack for the dollar beers dollar hot dogs and dollar bets.

100% let me ask you this, do you know a place called Lake Wawa Sea?

Yeah.

That's where I learned a water ski.

Shut up.

I have, I have, uh, I have, uh, many a great memory from that time so it's always fun when I meet

Hoosiers I had no idea you were a Hoosier yeah okay and then let me ask you this and I ask

everybody from Indiana what is your understanding of the meaning of the phrase Hoosier?

I had no meaning to it. It was just a word, literally just a word, until I had some relatives from St. Louis be like, oh, it's like not like it's not good

And I was like, oh, yeah, apparently in other states who's just like not a great thing.

It's like what you call somebody who's just like I don't

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