Welcome to the Bowler Work Podcast.

It is July 26, 2023.

I'm Charlie Sykes and I'm back after a couple more days off, which gives you a little

bit of perspective on today's podcast, by the way.

We're going to be joined by Governor Aissa Hutchinson, who is one of the very, very few

Republican candidates who's been willing to take on Donald Trump directly.

Now I'm not misleading anyone here that I think today's Hutchinson is going to be

the nominee.

He's not.

But one of the things that I hope to do with this podcast is to expose people to some

of those voices that are still within the Republican Party and willing to take on Donald

Trump.

Does not mean that he is no longer a conservative Republican.

Aissa Hutchinson is very much a conservative Republican.

And we do talk about that on today's podcast.

But I want to thank Sunny Bunch and Mona Cheren for sitting in.

And if you have not been listening to Will Salatans, fantastic series on Lindsey Graham,

I strongly urge you to do this.

As we're doing the podcast this week, of course, we are still on indictment watch waiting

for the next indictments to drop from Jack Smith involving not just January 6th, but Donald

Trump's entire conspiracy to overturn the election.

And then of course, there is the indictment out of Georgia, which is perhaps also imminent

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