You're listening to, atheistically speaking. Oh, Hello and welcome to episode 72 of atheistically speaking with your host

Thomas Smith. I'd like to thank everyone for the overwhelmingly positive

response to Steve coming on and bearing his soul and talking about it. I've got nothing but

positivity and well wishes for Steve and that's really good to hear. I honestly just had no idea going into this what

it was going to be. It was a little scary but I mean it was kind of an adventure you

know it's just like let's let's talk see what happens and made for good

pod I think it was really really unique I don't know that I've heard anything like this before but that

wasn't why I did it I really just you

know Steve contacted me and wanted to talk and screw it we talked and so here's the

second half of that coming up I don't think there's anything else I need to say other than let's get to the

the remainder of the Steve interview.

Yeah, I can understand that in a direct sense. I think that it would be a weird way to go about life to be afraid of

changing someone's mind because they could have an experience like that in a general sense.

I mean you should obviously have a podcast.

I mean you're not afraid to speak your mind about atheism, but I do sympathize. I don't think that automatically once, and I'm sure we, you know, the three of us would agree and sometimes an image of atheists that are is painted.

If I hear someone's religious, the first words out of my mouth are not trying to convince them otherwise. Often it's the opposite. Like, it's not the opposite. But oftentimes I'm very careful about it because I have had that same

experience where I've sort of sensed that someone is really hanging on to their religion,

maybe in a way that you were Jake or in a similar way that it put you through where

I would be worried about pulling the rug from under them at this vulnerable moment of whatever their lives.

I've definitely had that thought and I've steered completely clear of trying to you know now is not the time to try to

convert someone over to atheism so I can definitely

respect that but I do think that in in public you know discourse and in your

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