Hey there, this is Against Everyone with Connor Abe. It's the against Saturday episode. For the

22nd of December 2018, I'm going to be talking about the occult significance of Christmas.

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So, like I said, this episode is called The Occult Significance of Christmas.

Why this episode?

Well, on the last episode with a guest, with Daniela Bellelli, we talked about right at the end how we were both raised without religion.

And we both became deeply concerned with religion and interested in it in our own ways

in our lives. And so let's write on the outset. Like I don't, I'm not trying to convert people

to loving Christmas here, but it's not called the occult

significance of happy holidays. I will be talking about Christmas today. And, you know, I

experienced Christmas in a secular way, almost my entire life. I don't really have much

remembrance of Santa even. That was a very early disillusionment.

I think my father just said, oh, yeah, we bought your presents, you know, when I was like

six or five or something like that. But I don't even really remember Santa after that. So, I mean,

before that. So I don't think it was a real presence in my life.

Not that Santa's not secular for the most part. But I do want to talk about these spiritual aspects

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