Hi, this is Against Everyone with Connor Abeeb, a weekly podcast featuring my conversations with

countercultural figures and exploring complex philosophical, spiritual, and political ideas.

It's a show about imagining a better world and asking the urgent question of what it means to be

human today. And I'll be asking that question and exploring

and imagining with some of the biggest, most rebellious thinkers and artists and occultists

of our time. On this episode, I'll be speaking with fellow podcaster, author, martial artist,

and just all around badass Daniela Balelli.

Daniela is the host of the amazing History on Fire podcast where he explores historical

events and people with his, I would say, typical of him, but atypical of everybody else,

sort of rebellious angle of looking at the past.

Danielle and I met a long time ago when we were both on the Duncan Trussell family hour together.

I was just sort of thrown into the room with this brilliant Italian guy who had a thick accent

and a lot of amazing thoughts about things.

Since then, he's become an extremely popular podcaster with History on Fire.

And also his other podcast, The Drunken Dallas.

He has a great book out.

He actually has several books out, but there's a really great one called Create Your Own Religion.

Danielle and I talk about what history is even.

We talk about the time of podcasting where he and I and Duncan Trussell were meeting and Joe

Rogan was this sort of emerging figure and bringing podcasts to the world and how how that affected our lives, and why some of us

went kind of separate ways, almost, in a way. We talk about also just compassion and religion

and the seriousness of conversations that we need right now today, but not taking them too

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