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Hello and welcome to atheistically speaking.

This is episode 238 and I'm your host Thomas Smith.

All right, you know what's coming, you know the drill.

This is another long portion, but very good portion of the Eli James debate.

I went slightly back so we could hear the last thing

Eli said and then we'll go back into James response.

And then the next cut is a little more even because we actually transitioned.

So sorry for that first cut, there was just no place where there was a good moment to stop

because Eli and James are very good at going back and forth seamlessly.

So sorry for that cut, but I will get you right back into it.

No need to talk because it's already so long.

And I hope you enjoy part two. And I don't hear any acknowledgement of the huge group that you're out grouping because of that.

I apologize that you don't get that, but that frankly is your decision and your problem.

That you have decided to is your decision and problem.

That you have decided to shut out my voice because of something that you read that you didn't like,

rather than try to dig deeper, was your decision and that's your hurt, not my hurt.

I don't know what will and will not trigger or offend people,

but if you want to know why,

you want to know why I'm willing to speak out like that and say feminism blah blah

blah and I mean specifically a so-called problematic narrow fringe of extremists is the same

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