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All right, I've got an exciting part two with Dr. Kevin Folta.

It was a lot of fun.

This part's even more action-packed than part one if I... Dr. Kevin Folta, it was a lot of fun.

This part's even more action-packed than part one,

if I did say so myself.

So let's get right to that. What can you explain, sorry, further ignorance, what exactly does organic mean these days?

And is it's a

a label that makes sense really?

Well, what it is is it's a different production method.

So, all it means is that you have, so when we think about the way we grow plants we have

genetics and we have the production methods methods and what organic is is it's a

production system where the land has not had any synthetic chemicals on it for three years.

It's certified as organic, meaning that you can only use natural pesticides, natural insecticides,

so you can use things like copper to control bacteria.

You can use BT, which is the same thing that's in the GM oak corn.

BT is a powder bacterial spore of suspension that you can put on plants and grow them in

organic context. And you're just not allowed to use synthetic herbicides or fertilizers or insecticides.

So that, I mean, is that something you would in general not really be in favor of?

I mean, it sounds like, A, it sounds like it would be more expensive than it is but also it it sounds like it's not

Utilizing a lot of good science that we could be utilizing well that's true it doesn't utilize so if it's up to me if it's

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