You're listening to, atheistically speaking. Oh, Hello and welcome to atheistically speaking this is episode 161 and I am your host Thomas Smith.

All right today I've got a great interview with Justin Sheber.

He's got a new YouTube channel called Real Atheology and we talked about that and the first video is about the evidential problem of suffering. So we went into that argument as well. So here we go. Here's that interview.

Joining me right now is Justin Sheber and this I believe is the third time you've been on the show I think

Indeed it is all right that's pretty. That's a good run.

So I, congratulations for that totally meaningless distinction that you'll completely forget

about in a minute.

But third time, it's a charm.

Justin is here to talk about, well, real a theology, his new YouTube channel.

And I'm very excited about it.

I've consumed the first video, well, the first, I guess,

you've got some videos of debates and stuff on there,

which are also very great,

but the first, I believe, original real

a theology content has gone up, right? Correct, correct. Yeah, I've started the

channel a few months back and over time I've kind of built up debate videos

that I've had on other channels and I kind of moved him over here and in preparation to launch this

really theology channel and essentially what that is is, well, I guess to define my term here, a theology, what does that mean?

Well, let me do the questioning here.

Hey, Justin, what does real a theology mean? the legitimacy to the channel, but a theology is essentially, you know, broadly construed as just an opposition to theology.

So, you know, where theology kind of starts off with the assumption that God exists and then tries to kind of make God fit the world, you know, what I'm suggesting is that's the wrong approach to go about, you know,

asking the interesting questions in life and that we need to step back further without making that assumption and so I think

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