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Sofieland with Sofie Hagen

Artist Travis Alabanza - Being black, trans and gendernonconforming

Sofieland with Sofie Hagen

Sofie Hagen

Society & Culture, Comedy

4.91.3K Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2018

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Sofie talks to artist Travis Alabanza about being black and trans and gender-non-conforming, making up for lost time fashion-wise, how the outside world tells you how to be, pronouns and fitting into boxes, growing up poor, an abusive relationship with the internet, how minority artists are politicised as 'activists’, who deserves vulnerability, oppression making the oppressed two-dimensional, the urge to be desired, perfection, trans people editing themselves in public and the bonding power of honesty.

Trigger Warning: Transphobia

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0:00.0

I get really annoyed when people introduce me to events as an activist because I know so many great activists that are doing the hard

0:06.3

Fucking work that I'm like actually no like the you know no the people that are activists to me are the people that are doing this and that and

0:13.4

that and I think it's so interesting what happens to culture when they see

0:19.6

marginalized people express their opinion. Suddenly we have to heavily politicize them.

0:24.3

It gets better because it has to get better.

0:30.3

We're all made of human.

0:35.0

Hi everyone, you are listening to the Made of Human

0:38.0

Parkcast with Sophie Hagen.

0:40.0

That's me. I'm your host.

0:41.0

I'm a Danish stand-up comedian that's why I sound like this

0:43.9

the background noise you can hear is a busy London road trafficked London road

0:51.0

because I'm not closing the window for this because then I would

0:54.5

die I would dehydrate immediately and die because it's so hot I can't even

1:00.1

exist in my own skin so you will be hearing buses and police cars and people

1:07.8

screaming because hey London I'm not paying my life savings in rent every month to have peace and quiet am I.

1:17.0

I'm in the middle of things. It's supposedly the best thing to be.

1:22.0

No, I'm very happy. I'm just very warm. supposedly the best thing to be.

1:23.0

No, I'm very happy. I'm just very warm as well.

1:26.0

You are about to listen to the Travis alibancer episode.

1:28.0

Travis alibanza, it's episode 101,

1:31.0

which is kind of weird. 101 episodes. I didn't, I don't know if I thought we'd make it this

1:36.8

far. I just wanted to create a fun, a fun little podcast that I enjoyed where I would get

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