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🗓️ 2 February 2021
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The European Commission has rowed back on their 'hugely inflammatory' attempt to trigger Article 16 of the Northern Ireland protocol, after outcry from the British and Irish governments. The fact that it was even attempted in the first place exposes a misunderstanding of the Irish border on the part of the EU, and sets a dangerous precedent.
On this episode of the New Statesman Podcast, Stephen Bush, Anoosh Chakelian and Ailbhe Rea discuss why the decision was made to invoke the clause, and the implications it raises. Then, in You Ask Us, they answer your question on whether a nominally leftwing party can ever justify a closed border policy.
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Stephen writes that the EU doesn't understand the Irish border any better than the Brexiteers do.
Ailbhe argues that by attempting to trigger Article 16, the EU has lost the moral high ground.
Anoosh has been following the cladding crisis, and reports here on the millions of people stuck in unsafe homes as a result.
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Topics in this episode
Europe
UK
Ireland
Northern Ireland
Article 16
Northern Ireland protocol
Brexit
Covid-19
Vaccine
The DUP
Conservatives
European Commission
People in this episode
Arlene Foster
Boris Johnson
Ursula Von der Layen
Jean Claude Juncker
Keir Starmer
Stephen Bush
Anoosh Chakelian
Ailbhe Rea
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1:36.5 | on today's new statesman podcast we discuss the European Commission and its vaccine chaos and you ask us is it ever right for a left-wing party to propose closing borders. So we're just coming out of a weekend of apparent chaos in the European Commission |
1:52.0 | when they suggested on Friday night that they were going to stop |
1:56.3 | exports of the vaccine from the EU, so from Ireland over the border to Northern Ireland, which sort of flew in the face of the Brexit Agreement and casually cast aside the Northern Ireland protocol. |
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