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Hi, I'm Anouche. I'm Alfa. And I'm Stephen.

And on today's New Statement Podcast, we discuss Kirstaama's leadership so far

and you ask us, is patriotism really the root to Labour's victory?

So we're recording on what has been a difficult week for the Labour leader so far.

He came on stuck during PMQ's, having to say that he actually misheard Boris Johnson when he accused him of saying

he wanted the UK to remain part of the European Medicines Agency.

And there was also a leak of a report put together for what the Labour Party needed to do to appeal to red wall voters,

which suggested waving more flags and various symbolic gestures like that.

Stephen, you were writing your column this week on Kirstaama and kind of what the commentary at consensus is forming around his image.

Can you tell us a bit about why you decided that was your column theme and sort of what you found when you were researching it?

Well, so as I think I've said on the podcast before, broadly what happens with the poll call is I do like six or so ideas.

The idea is this forces me even with political parties to take another example of something

where people in the bubble are getting increasingly agitated and I also think incorrectly the Liberal Democrats lack of prominence.

Because in an any given week the chances that Jason will say yes, yes, what the magazine needs this week is a Lib Dem column.

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