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Arthur Hayes: 'Hyperliquid is Facing its Gentrification Moment' | Markets Outlook

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🗓️ 23 September 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Maelstrom CIO and BitMEX Co-Founder Arthur Hayes talks HYPE, BTC, and Korea Blockchain Week. To get the show every week, follow the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. In today's Markets Outlook, CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie and Sam Ewen sit down with Chief Investment Officer at Maelstrom and Co-founder of BitMEX Arthur Hayes from Korea Blockchain Week for a no-holds-barred conversation on all things crypto. Arthur shares his unique insights on the South Korean crypto market. Plus, he gives his prediction for bitcoin by the end of the year and explains what was behind his recent decision to exit a major HYPE position. This content should not be construed or relied upon as investment advice. It is for entertainment and general information purposes. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie and Sam Ewen.

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0:00.0

Chief Investment Officer Mailstrom and the co-founder of Bitmex, Arthur Hayes.

0:10.8

Hello.

0:11.9

Hi.

0:12.6

Nice to see you, IRL.

0:14.5

Yeah.

0:15.0

Yeah.

0:17.2

All right.

0:17.9

We got to talk about this excitement.

0:19.4

You just brought a lot of energy to the desk. We're here at Korea Blockchain Week. I mean, talk to us about what you hope the audience who's watching this learns about Asia and crypto.

0:28.8

I mean, this is the most active crypto trading market in the world by any country, even for capital, right? It's crazy. So it has been that way for a very long time, which is why I've been coming to Korea for crypto since 2014. So I love this place. I love Seoul. I live in the region. I've been here many, many times. We've talked a little bit about it, but I would love to hear it from your perspective. You've been coming to Korea since 2014. Talk to us about the trading culture here,

0:56.9

the retail trading culture here. What is it that makes it such a dynamic market for crypto trading?

1:02.2

So, number one thing is a very highly educated market. Number two, which is actually not the best

1:10.2

statistic, is that they're overeducated.

1:13.6

In terms of there's not as much opportunity for all these very intelligent people, it's extremely

1:18.9

expensive to live in Seoul and be successful. And all of the best jobs are controlled by, you know,

1:24.9

four, five, six, seven families who run these chables, the Samsung's

1:29.6

Hyundai's of the world, LG.

1:33.6

And so you have this population that wants to escape this, you know, depressing, crushing

1:38.4

rat race that is like Korean society and this megapolus.

1:43.1

And so crypto and the internet have been one of those things, whether it's been gaming.

1:47.5

And now it's stock trading, right?

1:49.7

So, you know, I used to come from Tradify.

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