One of the things that I've learned in ministry over the years is that it is just

important for people to get the information that it is for me to communicate it.

And so what I'm learning to do and what I see a lot of good black creatures do, they'll create a, you know, parts of speech,

you know, metaphor, similes, and repetition things.

It's like when you look at, in a very real sense,

Jesus employed that method.

A sermon on the mount, you know,

Blessed are the blah blah blah.

And he puts these new truths into the same

pattern phrases so people can remember it right I always tell people when you add

art to speech it's more memorable.

That certainly is.

It's an intensification of speech, just like music is.

It's easier to remember something that I sing than it is to remember something that I say. applying the riches of the Reformation to the modern church. This is Whitehorse Sin,

a weekly roundtable discussion about theology and culture. Welcome to another episode of White Horsein. We're continuing our series and

Christianity and the Arts. Throughout this series we're talking about the history of the arts and

Christian life but also in broader society. In this episode we're taking some time

to talk about the church, the icons, the tapestries, the stained glass windows,

they're all forming us in a variety of different ways. But for us, we're going to focus

on corporate worship and the sermon in the African American church context.

And so for this task I'm joined with a distinguished guest, Dr. Carl Ellis, who served

in many capacities, and here's a couple just to name a few. He's currently the provost's

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