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Infamous America

ARSONISTS Ep. 1 | John Orr: “Point of Origin”

Infamous America

Black Barrel Media

True Crime, Documentary, History, Society & Culture

4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

By the mid-1980s, John Orr is a respected arson investigator for the Glendale Fire Department in Los Angeles. He might not be the easiest person to like, but he has a good reputation in Los Angeles County. At the same time, a serial arsonist is setting fires across the metro area. On October 10, 1984, the worst case scenario finally happens: a fire at Ole’s Home Center in South Pasadena turns deadly. Join Black Barrel+ for ad-free episodes and bingeable seasons: blackbarrel.supportingcast.fm/join   Apple users join Black Barrel+ for ad-free episodes, bingeable seasons and bonus episodes. Click the Black Barrel+ banner on Apple to get started with a 3-day free trial.   On YouTube, subscribe to INFAMOUS+ for ad-free episodes and bingeable seasons: hit “Join” on the Legends YouTube homepage.   For more details, please visit www.blackbarrelmedia.com. Our social media pages are: @blackbarrelmedia on Facebook and Instagram, and @bbarrelmedia on Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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October 10th, 1984 was a typical evening in South Pasadena, a neighborhood in the greater

0:19.7

Los Angeles area. It was a Wednesday night,

0:22.4

and the entertainment on television was a little thin. It was the era of shows like Kate and Alley,

0:28.6

Cagney and Lacey, the Jeffersons, the A-Team, the Dukes of Hazard, Dynasty, Dallas, Highway to Heaven,

0:36.2

Magnum P.I., The Cosby Show, Family Ties, Cheers,

0:40.3

Nightcourt, and Hill Street Blues. On NBC that night, legendary baseball TV announcer

0:47.8

Vin Scully was calling the second game of the World Series between the Detroit Tigers and the San

0:53.7

Diego Padres.

0:55.5

19-year-old Jim Obdom had wondered why it was so quiet in Oli's Home Center that evening,

1:01.2

and then he remembered the World Series game. People who may have normally stopped by the

1:06.2

store after work had probably postponed the errand so they could watch the game.

1:11.9

Oles was a popular chain of home improvement stores that had more than 30 locations in

1:16.9

Southern California in the 1980s. Oli's sold hardware supplies, electrical supplies, building materials,

1:24.9

paint, decorative items, basically everything needed to design or repair a house.

1:31.0

That Wednesday in October 1984, Jim Obdom's quiet evening was about to come to an end,

1:37.6

and it would be replaced by chaos and terror.

1:43.5

Around 8 p.m., customers and employees started noticing smoke in Oli's home center.

1:50.2

For most, like Jim Obdom, they saw the grayish-white smoke that rapidly filled the huge store.

1:57.0

For those who were near the aisle where patio accessories were stored, they saw the flames.

2:02.4

A small fire had sparked in that aisle, and the flames erased through the highly flammable

2:07.1

items with ferocious speed.

2:10.6

Obdm was near the back of the store when the smoke became apparent.

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