You! This is Radio Atlantic. I'm Isaac Dover. Well, I just got off a plane from Iowa. We've had the last debate before the actual voting starts.

The candidates are a little less chummy now.

The weather is a little colder and a Senate impeachment trial is about to begin.

With all that going on, we thought it would be nice to get a view from

someone who knows politics, knows mass media, and has had his own complicated

history with Donald Trump, the Republican Party, and fitting into where politics is now.

This week's guest is Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Former California governor, movie star, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

In Washington we spend all this time thinking about a celebrity Republican who became a successful

politician all while kind of being a bit of a parody himself.

If Trump is one version of that path, Schwarzenegger is a very, very different one.

We talked about the nexus of politics and entertainment, the way forward on climate change, and

what he says about the Republicans who are leaving the party, even though he insists for all the problems

he has with the direction of the GOP, he won't.

We talked in his office in Santa Monica a few weeks ago when I was out in Los Angeles for the last

Democratic debate. The place is kind of incredible.

It's giant. Posters of his movies, statues of iconic characters. I walk past Mr. Fries and the Terminator

on my way in. there was a predator.

There's also the seal of the state of California on the door.

And in the hallway, a mock-up of the 1 million solar roof panel

that had just been installed in California

off an initiative he started as governor.

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