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Natalie Haynes Stands Up for the Classics

Aristophanes

Natalie Haynes Stands Up for the Classics

BBC

Stand-up, History, Comedy

4.8598 Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2020

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Join Natalie Haynes and guests for half an hour of comedy and the Classics from the BBC Radio Theatre in London. Natalie is a reformed comedian who is a little bit obsessive about Ancient Greece and Rome. She stands up in the name of Greek playwright and inventor of 'old comedy', Aristophanes. Expect a chorus of frogs, rather too much information about padded costumes, and a sex strike. Oh, and a lot of gossip from two and half thousand years ago. With special guests:

Rosie Wyles Edith Hall Fiona Laird.

Producer: Mary Ward-Lowery

First broadcast on BBC Radio 4 in April 2016.

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:05.0

Ladies and gentlemen, today I'm standing up for Aristophanes.

0:13.0

Yeah, he deserves all of that and more.

0:16.0

He is, of course, the great comic playwright from 5th century Athens.

0:20.0

He's born around the middle of the century, about 4, 47, something like that.

0:24.9

He's born to a very wealthy family.

0:26.2

His father is a landowner.

0:27.7

We have maybe 11 of his 30 plays that survive.

0:31.5

And he is the great exponent proponent of old comedy.

0:35.4

There's old comedy and new comedy.

0:37.2

A new comedy is more familiar to us because that's what Shakespeare takes. So like maybe there's long lost twins and somebody's got a lock of hair and then they're reunited. Or there's like a pretty girl and she wants to marry a pretty young man. And then she has to marry this horrible crusty old man. and then somebody turns out with the other half of her locket,

0:55.0

and it turns out the crusty old man is her dad, hooray! She can marry the young man, forget about the incest subtext, that's fine, that's fine! I loathe new comedy, as you can doubtless tell, I literally can't bear it. But I adore old comedy, which is much funnier, more smutty, is dirty, it's

1:13.7

political, it's satirical, in every regard better. And Aristophanes is the genius who creates it.

1:19.0

And to give you an example, well, not created it, but he's the greatest exponent of it, I think.

1:23.1

And to give you an example of perhaps his most performed now play, the Lysistrata. It is written in

1:29.4

411 BCE. So the Peloponnesian War, which has ruined Athens for 20 years, has been going on

1:36.0

for that long. They've been at war with Sparta, their neighbour in the southern part of Greece,

1:40.0

and things have not gone beautifully. And it's a theme which runs through Aristophanes' plays,

1:44.0

is wishing that Athens would make peace, wishing that the war would come to an beautifully. And it's a theme which runs through Aristophanes' plays, is wishing that Athens would make peace,

1:46.0

wishing that the war would come to an end.

1:47.6

And there's one comic fantasy after another,

1:49.8

which takes this as its essential premise.

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