In this episode of Boss Files, I really feel that I'm much more present. I'm really present in what I'm doing.

I mean, I'm really present with you here. I'm not thinking, what am I doing next? Who is texting me?

Ariana Huffington, the founder of the Huffington Post, undergoes a huge personal transformation.

One of the most influential women in media. Today, she defines herself as a

wellness guru and a so-called sleep evangelist. She's on a mission to mend a culture of burnout as the

founder of Thrive Global. Corporate America is shifting. There are, as always, you know,

companies that are ahead of the curve, but everybody's

recognizing that if you don't take care of your employees, it's going to affect the bottom line.

Why she argues we need to disconnect in a connected world, plus the future of Uber. She's been

coined the company's most influential board member. So how is she

helping rebuild the company's culture following sexual harassment within Uber, numerous lawsuits,

and leadership shakeups? Her answer, no brilliant jerks allowed. Here's my conversation with

Ariana Huffington. Ariana Huffington, thank you for doing this. Thank you so much. It's great to be with you. It's a pleasure to have you. There is so much to get through. And let's just begin with the different chapters in your life. There have been so many. I've interviewed you over the year. I know there are many more to come. But your current chapter, if you will, is about thriving. It's about living well. So I wonder as we sit here

today, how do you define success for yourself in this moment? So for me, Successana is about

accelerating a culture shift that's already happening where we don't live any longer

under this delusion that in order to succeed we have to burn out.

This has been a very, very deep delusion that has prevailed in our culture for decades.

I actually traced it back to the first industrial revolution when we

became enthralled with machines and we started thinking that we want to become like

machines and the goal with machines is minimizing downtime. But the human operating system

is very different. You know, downtime is a feature, not a bug of the system.

And so the goal of the company, and I consider it my mission now, is to help people

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