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The Town with Matthew Belloni

Ariana in Wicked and How to Cast a Billion-Dollar Movie

The Town with Matthew Belloni

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.31.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Matt is joined by casting director Tiffany Little Canfield (‘Wicked’) to discuss casting major franchise roles that draw thousands of auditions like Elphaba and Glinda in ‘Wicked,’ the challenges of casting stars vs. unknowns, misconceptions about the casting process and how it has changed, Hollywood’s lack of young movie stars, the new achievement in casting Oscar, the best auditions she has ever seen, and other challenges of the casting process (02:06). Matt finishes the show with an opening weekend box office prediction for ‘Ella McCay’ (29:04). For a 20 percent discount on Matt’s Hollywood insider newsletter, ‘What I’m Hearing ...,’ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Email us your thoughts! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠thetown@spotify.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Host: Matt Belloni Guest: Tiffany Little Canfield Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Theme Song: Devon Renaldo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Think about cheese.

0:02.0

Make your thoughts cheesier.

0:04.2

Now add 100% chicken breast fillet, Chipotle sauce and Ameta cheese melt,

0:08.3

and it's giving the new cheesy chicken stack at McDonald's.

0:12.0

Did we mention it's cheesy?

0:13.9

Cheese.

0:15.8

Availments of the 4th of Jan, 2026 from 11 a.m.

0:18.1

Plus and participation may vary.

0:19.2

Subjects availability.

0:20.3

It is Thursday, December 11. It's very rare for the Oscars to add or subtract the category.

0:26.2

In fact, it's been 25 years since the Academy added an award. That was for Best Animated Feature.

0:31.6

But starting with the 98th Oscars in March, they're adding achievement in casting.

0:36.0

It's a long time coming. The Academy has had a

0:38.0

casting branch since 2013, and casting directors obviously play a crucial role in populating film and

0:43.9

TV with the right actors, discovering new talent, etc. But how are voters going to evaluate

0:49.3

movies to determine which ones are the best cast? I wanted to have a veteran casting director and academy member on the show to discuss and to talk

0:56.9

more broadly about the evolution of casting over the past few years, especially casting these

1:01.9

major studio franchise roles, the big sought-after gets that often draw thousands of wannabe

1:07.7

stars and require round after round of self-tapes and auditions and chemistry reads, sometimes with multiple levels of filmmakers and studio executives and a sign-off. With everything from an actor's social media profile to their salary demands, to their willingness to shoot in a particular location, it all plays a role in who stars in these big movies.

1:30.6

The film adaptation of Wicked was one of those projects.

1:35.2

Who would play Elfabah and Galinda was literally a billion-dollar question for Universal.

1:40.3

And it fell in part to Tiffany Little Canfield, who along with her partner, Bernie Telssey,

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