This episode is brought to you by Cartier.

To me, there's something inherently intriguing about contrasts.

Playing with duality not only creates a visual language of rhythm and intensity,

but can also amplify whatever mood you want to dress for.

That same idea is what makes the clash-Dacier jewelry collection so unforgettable.

There's truly no wrong way to wear it.

Wear two rings in different sizes.

Pair the supple bracelets with one of the rigid styles.

Mixed metals.

Don't be too precious about what works together and lean in

to having fun with it. You'll find your own personal statement. To see more, shop the Clash

de Cartier Collection on Cartier.com. Hi, everyone. I'm Hilary Kerr, the co-founder and chief content officer of Who What Where, and this is Second Life, a podcast spotlighting women who have truly inspiring careers.

We're talking about their work journeys,

what they've learned from the process of setting aside their doubts or fears,

and what happens when they embark on their second life.

Today on the show, I'm chatting with the founders of the industry-disrupting skiware brand half days,

Ariana Ferwerda and Kylie McKinnon.

Kylie grew up skiing and eventually trained in freestyle aerial skiing, which, as I learned,

is the one where you flip upside down in the air and it seems like you're about to die.

Cool.

She competed in the 2018 Olympics,

which is an incredible accomplishment. But she did so in men's skiwear because it was the

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