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Fox. Hey, this is this is Trey. Thank you for joining us for another edition of

Tuesdays with Trey. Ari Fleischer, he's been on the public stage for a long time, but he's someone I just met when I was in in DC even before meeting him. He is someone that I long admired his ability to answer questions in a heated environment, be unflappable.

I consider him to be a communications expert with a sub-specialty in politics. But why should I guess at that? Why don't

I just ask him? Ari Fleischer, welcome to our podcast. Thank you for taking some time to join us.

Well, thanks for having me and it's honor to be with you.

All right, that's how I describe you, a communications expert with a subspecialty in politics how do you

describe yourself well first of all if that's what you call me you just

showed you are not a communications expert yourself you know it's ironic for me because I was I had probably the most visible job you can

imagine in the government other than the president's job.

And yet I always consider myself a behind the scene staffer.

That was my job.

I was a press secretary for 21 years in Washington

for three congressmen, one senator, and the president.

And throughout it all, I always considered myself

a staffer doing what I could in the world of communications

to support my boss.

That was my job. It strikes me that it requires a certain humility to be the communications person as opposed to the front person.

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