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LOVERS by Shan

Are You Nicer to Strangers Than Your Partner ft. DeWanda Wise

LOVERS by Shan

Lemonada Media

Relationships, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Sexuality

5.05.7K Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Thank you to Evvy for sponsoring today’s video! Go to https://evvy.yt.link/v90OvPp and use code LOVERSBYSHAN10 to get 10% off your first purchase (up to $25). ________________________ In this episode of Lovers, I sit down with actor DeWanda Wise to talk about what makes her marriage to actor Alano Miller genuinely healthy, not perfect, not performative, but well-matched. DeWanda and Alano have been married since 2009 after dating for only three months. Now more than 15 years in, they frequently appear together at industry events and continue to build a partnership rooted in intentionality rather than assumption. Alano Miller, known for his roles in Underground and Jane the Virgin, shares a dynamic with DeWanda that is grounded in accountability and mutual respect. One of the most impactful amendments in their marriage came from Christian counseling: don’t treat strangers better than you treat me. They hold each other accountable to extend the same kindness, patience, and curiosity at home that they offer the outside world. When one of them falls short, the response is not immediate condemnation but curiosity and course correction. We explore the delicate balance between accepting your partner and enabling harmful patterns, and what it truly means to be well-suited to love someone as they are. DeWanda challenges the idea that being “too much” is always a flaw, suggesting instead that compatibility determines whether intensity feels overwhelming or perfectly matched. We also draw parallels to parenting, where the tension between letting someone be themselves and shaping them into who we think they should become is ever-present. This conversation ultimately centers on discernment, kindness, and the courage to build a relationship where both partners feel deeply seen and responsibly loved. This episode also features a clip of my upcoming interview with legendary relationship therapists John and Julie Gottman! You can preview this episode inside the LOVERS community only Thanks to our sponsor of this episode Evvy Find out what’s happening with your vaginal health so you can build a care guide based on knowledge vs guess work!Go to https://evvy.yt.link/v90OvPp use code LOVERSBYSHAN10 for 10% off your first purchase (up to $25). Follow DeWanda Wise  → Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dewandawise/→ Keep up with her movies and TV appearances: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1986622/Want more Lover?Receive the weekly Love Letter → http://loversbyshan.com/newsletterJoin the Lovers Community → https://www.loversbyshan.com/communityExplore quizzes and worksheets → http://loversbyshan.com/quizzes  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Confession on about that too, because I've known that you were married this entire time.

0:05.0

It feels so perfect that I feel like every few years I check in to be like,

0:09.0

who has a baby by somebody else?

0:10.0

Are they still together?

0:12.0

And it's this, I don't want to say uneventful, because I'm sure there's...

0:15.0

Very uneventful.

0:16.0

Hilariously uneventful is the kind of relationship that's very good on the nervous system. There have been

0:23.6

people who met Alano and think that he's a lot. There have been people who met me and been like,

0:31.2

oh, that's a strong woman and turn to Alano and be like, oh, that seems like that's a lot. We are not

0:37.0

a lot to each other. It's what

0:38.8

partnership is meant to do, which is hold the mirror up and lovingly call you home to

0:45.9

yourself. I know how you like yourself. This isn't the you that you enjoy being. So what's

0:52.3

going on? What's wrong?

0:56.9

Hey there, lovers.

0:59.1

My favorite quote is the key to happiness,

1:00.4

is managing expectations.

1:03.4

So I want to tell you what to expect with this episode.

1:05.9

So I'm going to have a conversation with DeWanda Wise. You might recognize from some blockbuster movies,

1:08.5

as well as some hit TV shows,

1:10.1

about the balance between

1:12.5

accepting and enabling your partner's flaws or not so nice parts.

1:17.6

In addition, you're going to see some ads in this episode.

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