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🗓️ 8 May 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Intelligence Squared. I'm producer Mia Serenti. Today's episode is part two of our |
0:06.3 | conversation with historian and author Rooka Bregman. If you missed part one, we recommend going back an episode to hear |
0:12.8 | Bregman lay out his vision for how moral ambition can drive real change. Let's return now to the |
0:18.2 | conversation with our host, Tim Harford. Tell us a bit more about the school for moral ambition. |
0:24.6 | Because you just drop that little bombshell in that you're quitting as an author, at least for the moment. |
0:30.6 | So where is it? How does it work? What are you doing? |
0:35.6 | Yeah, so we got started last year in Europe, continental Europe. |
0:41.3 | We've got our offices in Amsterdam. |
0:43.3 | And what we try to build is a magnet for really ambitious people. |
0:49.3 | We think that the most ambitious driven people should work on the most pressing global problems. |
0:56.0 | And sadly, that's currently not the case. |
0:58.0 | A good friend of mine, he studied at Oxford, he always talks about the Bermuda Triangle of Talent. |
1:05.0 | He's got a book out now, just now. |
1:07.0 | In Dutch, it really should be translated to English, if any publishers are listening to this. |
1:11.1 | Well, my publisher is listening, so. |
1:13.1 | But anyway, it's the Bermuda Triangle of Talent, |
1:16.4 | so it's consultancy, it is corporate law, and it is finance. |
1:21.1 | It's this dark chasm that sucks up |
1:24.5 | so many of our best and brightest, |
1:26.2 | and we never hear from them again, right? |
1:29.3 | It's honestly quite sad. |
1:31.3 | And these people could go on and do great things. |
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