I've written and talked about this before, but I really love when I get to meet pulling the thread listeners out in the world.

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It gets at the kind of big questions we're interested in, but from an ADHD lens. Ray is a mental health journalist who

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Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread. Today I'm talking to psychotherapist Meg

Josephson about the fond response. Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread.

On this show, we pull apart the web in which we all live to understand who we are and why we're here.

My hope is that these conversations spark moments of resonance and plant tiny seeds of awareness

so that we might all collectively learn and grow.

Here is today's guest, psychotherapist Meg Josephson, describing one component of the fawn

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