Human beings are like most living things in this world. We are created to feel emotion.

And whether we like it or not, whether it's good or bad, at least when you feel emotion, you feel

alive. Our guest today, Corey Keyes, is a renowned sociologist and psychologist, best known for his

research on flourishing and languishing. And his groundbreaking work explored in his book languishing how to feel alive again in a world

that wears this down.

When you're languishing, suddenly you stop doing and you rest and suddenly you don't feel

anything.

And when you feel this way, it's telling you you've left behind the good things that gave your life meaning.

So the sing languishing, like, I think I kind of get it.

How do I know if I have it?

You can feel it when you've lost some of those things.

You're starting to feel like what was a fullness to your life is empty.

So I'd love to drop into that a little bit more.

The risk of depression and anxiety among other mental disorders is so much higher among those who are languishing.

And yet we're not taking it serious at all. We're not even measuring

it in our public health system.

I didn't know about depression, so that was a godsend because I think what happens to a lot of

people is they don't have a word for it and they can't describe it.

And so I think a lot of well-intentioned clinicians and psychiatrists will just lump it in with depression.

But what I was feeling then, and I still experience it personally, several many days, is this gnawing sense of emptiness.

Like there's a huge void.

Literally, physically, there's this void in me.

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