happening and it happens for the people who were doing what we've been talking about it happens

for the people who stopped crowd pleasing it happens to the people who got brave and just said I'm going to do what I'm going to do in my own way.

Hello and welcome back to art juice.

Hello and welcome back to Art Juice. This is episode 115 of the art

podcast that brings you honest, generous and humorous conversations that will feed

your creative soul and get you thinking.

With me Alice Sheridan and me Louise Fletcher.

And we're late today because we didn't have the two of us last week so we've just spent 20 minutes chatting to having a

catch up. I really enjoyed listening to last week's episode. I mean I did a

workshop with Lewis Noble a couple of years ago I I love the way he works. Some of the things, the way

he works in sketchbooks have been or rather on loose sheets of paper and then bringing them

into your sketchbooks were a complete game changer for me.

So it was lovely to hear more about that conversation and everybody who's taking his course,

I'm really excited for you.

I think it's going to be great.

I know, and he's such a nice guy. He really is a nice guy to talk to and that was our second conversation with

Heather and we went into more depth on some things and got into some different things but I just really always enjoy talking to him and I always learn something talking to him just the way you see things. It's in a different way of working. So I love that. I love talking to other people.

The fact, but I know when you've done one without me, it's really nice to go for a dog walk and put it on

and like just listen and not have to do anything and not here myself which is really nice.

Well we've got my extra one coming up so that will be your surprise.

So this week we rocked up and we weren't sure what we

were going to talk about but as always it has come out of a mix of a listener

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