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HBR IdeaCast

Are You Considering Chinese AI In Your Strategy?

HBR IdeaCast

Harvard Business Review

Leadership, Entrepreneurship, Communication, Marketing, Business, Business/management, Management, Business/marketing, Business/entrepreneurship, Innovation, Hbr, Strategy, Economics, Finance, Teams, Harvard

4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

AI ecosystems are moving fast, and smart leaders are considering all options when it comes to staying competitive. Amit Joshi is a professor at IMD Business School, and he argues that leaders should be looking to Chinese technology as a possible way to power up their strategies and growth. The adoption comes with some risks that leaders must be aware of, Joshi explains, but a careful combination of multiple AI tools could be the answer. He also explains just how far Chinese AI platforms have come since the arrival of DeepSeek, what makes them different, and examples of how companies are integrating them into their tech stacks the right way. Joshi is coauthor of the HBR article "How Savvy Companies are Using Chinese AI."

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0:00.0

I'm Adi Ignatius.

0:11.7

I'm Alison Beard, and this is the HPR Ideacast.

0:25.1

All right, so Allison, today we have a topic that's really interesting to me, and that is the parallel development of AI ecosystems in the West and in China. So you think of how the two

0:32.2

pursued divergent strategies with the Internet. It really is a separate Chinese internet. The question is

0:38.0

whether that's going to happen with AI. And the likelihood at this point is that there isn't,

0:43.1

that there can exist multiple ecosystems and that companies can tap into them.

0:47.1

This sounds very interesting. I know that you spent a great deal of time in China earlier in

0:51.7

your career, but I imagined it's changed dramatically because of

0:55.2

the advance in the internet and now AI. So what did you learn? Well, when Open AI debuted in

1:01.7

2022 was generative of AI and we all suddenly had that at our fingertips. You know, China was way

1:07.6

behind. They're not now. So they've caught up and they have competitive advantage in some really clear areas.

1:13.2

So my guest today is Amit Joshi, who is a professor at IMD.

1:17.4

And he's suggesting that rather than this being a winner take-all or you have to go with one or the other of these ecosystems,

1:24.8

that global companies can really work with both,

1:27.9

that there are advantages to Western AI, to Chinese AI,

1:31.8

and if you run a complex business, you might want to be engaging with both.

1:34.7

I imagine, though, that a lot of companies are maybe hesitant

1:38.5

because of concerns about data, privacy, security,

1:43.2

that government policy might change and prevent them from, you know, continuing that strategy?

1:49.1

Absolutely. Look, I mean, we have these concerns when we deal with any AI company, what are the biases, et cetera.

1:55.4

I think with Western companies dealing with China, absolutely, there's a whole new level of security concern.

2:00.7

But there are ways to protect your data.

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