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🗓️ 12 August 2025
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0:00.0 | I'm Adi Ignatius. |
0:11.7 | I'm Alison Beard, and this is the HPR Ideacast. |
0:25.1 | All right, so Allison, today we have a topic that's really interesting to me, and that is the parallel development of AI ecosystems in the West and in China. So you think of how the two |
0:32.2 | pursued divergent strategies with the Internet. It really is a separate Chinese internet. The question is |
0:38.0 | whether that's going to happen with AI. And the likelihood at this point is that there isn't, |
0:43.1 | that there can exist multiple ecosystems and that companies can tap into them. |
0:47.1 | This sounds very interesting. I know that you spent a great deal of time in China earlier in |
0:51.7 | your career, but I imagined it's changed dramatically because of |
0:55.2 | the advance in the internet and now AI. So what did you learn? Well, when Open AI debuted in |
1:01.7 | 2022 was generative of AI and we all suddenly had that at our fingertips. You know, China was way |
1:07.6 | behind. They're not now. So they've caught up and they have competitive advantage in some really clear areas. |
1:13.2 | So my guest today is Amit Joshi, who is a professor at IMD. |
1:17.4 | And he's suggesting that rather than this being a winner take-all or you have to go with one or the other of these ecosystems, |
1:24.8 | that global companies can really work with both, |
1:27.9 | that there are advantages to Western AI, to Chinese AI, |
1:31.8 | and if you run a complex business, you might want to be engaging with both. |
1:34.7 | I imagine, though, that a lot of companies are maybe hesitant |
1:38.5 | because of concerns about data, privacy, security, |
1:43.2 | that government policy might change and prevent them from, you know, continuing that strategy? |
1:49.1 | Absolutely. Look, I mean, we have these concerns when we deal with any AI company, what are the biases, et cetera. |
1:55.4 | I think with Western companies dealing with China, absolutely, there's a whole new level of security concern. |
2:00.7 | But there are ways to protect your data. |
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