Wind Down with Janet Kramer, an I Heart Radio podcast.

I want to introduce you to On the Job and host Avery Thompson.

Avery shares stories of people making changes in their professional and personal lives.

Whether it's a successful athlete transitioning into a new career off the field,

a fly fishing tour guide trying to introduce a new segment of folks to the joys of the outdoors or a stadium beer and

hot dog hawker who doubles as a CEO of a red-hot startup. We'll find out what drives

them and what lies ahead. These are heartfelt stories of people finding their

lives work.

On the Job is brought to you by Express employment professionals.

This week Avery talks to a former carpenter who is now a fellow at Harvard.

Welcome to On the Job.

It's hard to believe it that this is now our eighth season.

We've got a lot of great stories coming your way.

If you're not sure how to feel about the economy these days, you're coming your

not sure how to feel about the economy these days you're not alone.

It's an admittedly confusing time right now.

So to try to make sense of what's going on out there,

I give a call up to Boston, Massachusetts to speak

with author, labor historian, and fellow at Harvard Law, Mark Erlich.

Mark Erlich, thank you for being on the podcast.

Let's jump right into it.

How's it looking out there to you?

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