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The President’s Inbox

Are We Ready? | Trump’s National Security Strategy, With Rebecca Lissner

The President’s Inbox

Council on Foreign Relations

Politics, News:politics, News

4.4734 Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Rebecca Lissner, senior fellow for U.S. foreign policy at the Council, sits down with James M. Lindsay to discuss the Trump administration's new National Security Strategy and its consequences for U.S. foreign and defense policy.   This is the eighth episode in a special series from The President’s Inbox, bringing you conversations with Washington insiders to assess whether the United States is ready for a new, more dangerous world.   Mentioned on the Episode:   "2025 National Security Strategy of the United States of America," The White House   Rebecca Lissner, Will Freeman, Liana Fix, Steven Cook, Michelle Gavin and Paul Stares, “Unpacking a Trump Twist of the National Security Strategy,” CFR.org   For an episode transcript and show notes, visit The President’s Inbox at: https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/tpi/are-we-ready-trumps-national-security-strategy-rebecca-lissner

Transcript

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0:00.0

Three, two, one.

0:03.0

The world has turned dangerous.

0:05.0

Is the United States prepared to meet the new challenges it might face?

0:08.0

In this special series from the President's inbox,

0:11.0

we're bringing you conversations with Washington insiders

0:14.0

to assess whether the United States is ready for a new, more dangerous world.

0:27.6

What are America's core foreign policy interests? What should the United States want in and from the world?

0:30.6

The Donald Trump administration sought to answer those two questions

0:34.6

with the release last week of its long-awaited national security strategy.

0:38.4

The 29-page document lays out the administration's vision for how the United States should

0:43.2

achieve its national interests in a complicated world. The strategy explicitly repudiates

0:48.5

the foreign policy the United States has pursued since the end of the Cold War, arguing that

0:53.2

it undermined American

0:54.3

power, wealth, and decency. The congressionally mandated document reflects a shift from the stance

0:59.6

of previous administrations, including Mr. Trump's first term. So what is this new vision for the

1:04.5

United States? Will it usher in a new era of American greatness as it promises or create a new

1:09.8

series of problems for Washington to address.

1:14.2

From the Council on Foreign Relations, welcome to the president's inbox. I'm Jim Lindsay.

1:20.1

Joining me today is Rebecca Listerner, Senior Fellow for U.S. Foreign Policy here at the Council on

1:26.1

Foreign Relations. Rebecca, thank you for joining me.

1:29.3

Thanks for having me, Jim. So, Rebecca, I know you've served in government. You were in the Biden-Harris

1:36.1

administration. You ended your time there as a deputy principal advisor to the vice president. But before that, you were senior director

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