Hey there, Stephen Dubner.

If you follow business news, you may have noticed an interesting trend.

Big companies hiring not one, but two CEOs.

It's happening at Spotify, Oracle, Comcast, and elsewhere.

Why does this seem to be happening so frequently? Well, one possibility, a slight

possibility perhaps, is that all those people have been listening to Freakonomics Radio in an episode

that we made a couple years ago called Our Two CEOs Better Than One. So we thought it might be a good

time to revisit that episode, and that's what we're playing for you today as a bonus episode.

We have updated facts and figures.

We're necessary.

As always, thanks for listening.

People often ask me, where do you get the ideas for your show? And I usually say something like,

well, I don't have a real job. This show is all I do. So I spend a lot of time reading, talking to

people, wandering around, trying to sort out what's interesting in the world and what's under-explored.

But occasionally, a good idea just shows up in an email, like the

one we received from one Zach Levine of Tampa, Florida. As an entrepreneur who has started and

sold several successful tech startups, he wrote, I have always toyed with the idea of having

a co-CEO. I shine at most CEO-related things, but there are many I'm not

great at. So my question for you, do companies run by co-CEOs perform better than those run by

solo CEOs? Today, on Freakonomics Radio, let's find out. We will hear from one CEO expert who thinks

co-CEOs are a great idea and one who thinks it's absurd. We'll hear directly from some co-CEOs,

one pair that is happily running a big company and one from a huge company that went down in flames.

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