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651. The Ultimate Dance Partner

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Documentary, Society & Culture

4.632K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

For most of human history, horsepower made the world go. Then came the machines. So why are there still seven million horses in America? (Part one of a series, “The Horse Is Us.”)

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0:00.0

Hey there, it's Steven Dubner. Before we get to today's episode, we need your help for an upcoming episode.

0:08.6

It's about supplements, brain supplements in particular. Do you take supplements to improve your

0:14.8

memory or focus or any other brain function? Or do you know someone who does? If so, we would like to hear about it.

0:21.9

What do you take and why? What kind of effects do you think the supplements have had?

0:26.6

I'd also like to know where you got the information that led you to take those supplements.

0:31.4

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0:37.2

Make sure you record this voice

0:39.0

memo in a quiet place. If you're willing, I'd love you to include your name, age, what you do,

0:44.4

and where you live. Thanks for that. Also, one more thing. If you would like to come see me in person

0:50.3

talking about 20 years of Freakonomics and what's next. I will be in Washington, D.C. on

0:57.0

November 2nd and in New York City on November 13th. Tickets are available at Freakonomics.com

1:03.4

slash live shows. I hope to see you there. And now here is today's episode.

1:20.5

Earlier this year, I was visiting Chester, a mid-sized city in the northwest of England,

1:22.0

a few miles from the Welsh border.

1:26.1

Chester was founded nearly 2,000 years ago as a Roman fortress.

1:48.5

And most of those old Roman walls are still standing, a rough rectangle that surrounds the city center. Chester also has a large and beautiful cathedral, parts of which date back nearly 1,000 years. It was a cathedral that brought me and some colleagues to Chester. We were retracing the steps of the 18th century composer George Friedrich Handel and his groundbreaking Messiah.

1:50.4

You will hear those episodes eventually, but that's not what today's episode is about.

1:55.6

Because Chester is not only a cathedral city and a city with the most complete Roman walls in all of Britain.

2:01.8

It is also home to the Chester Racecourse, which dates back nearly 500 years,

2:07.0

which makes it the oldest continuously operating horse track in the world.

2:11.3

And we happened to be visiting Chester on the first day of the summer racing season.

2:16.7

So we strolled down the high street toward the track.

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