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Oh, for the best, it's like the worst, some breach of pain, some die of thirst, the way of knowing,

which way it's going. Oh, for the best, it's been the worst storm.

Welcome to the commentary magazine daily podcast. Today is Tuesday, August 1st, 2023. I am John

Pudhoritz, the editor of Commentary Magazine with me as always executive editor Abe Greenwald.

Hi, Abe. Uh, John. Washington commentary columnist at American Enterprise Institute Senior Fellow,

Matthew Kahnney. Hi, Matt. Hi, John. Christine Rosen is out this week joining us today, the editor

of the Washington Free Beacon, Eliana Johnson. Hi, Eliana. Hi, John. Eliana, we're trading texts

the other day about how much we dislike summer camp. And we actually went to the same summer camp

in Webster, Wisconsin. I won't name it because I don't want to insult it. I have no reason to

insult it because I was 11. I didn't like it and what did I know. But Eliana showed her passion

for polemic, even at a very, very young age as she sent me letters that she had sent home,

both from day camp. I didn't know you wrote letters from day camp, but from day camp and from

regular camp expressing her outrage at having been imprisoned, you know, in the in the in the

Wisconsin Gulag and even then you could see the hard charging argumentative brilliantly framed

work of polemic, I guess. I have a question about the letters from day camp.

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