Once you realize it is not a threat to your plane, your job is to keep going.

You don't say, hey, I see something really cool and interesting. I don't know what it is.

I'm going to turn the plane around. We're going to have a look.

I'm going to try to figure this out. See, if I were pilot, I'd say,

everybody on the right side of the plane, take a picture of this. That's what I'm saying, okay?

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This is StarTalk. I'm your host, Neil deGrasse Tyson. You're a personal astrophysicist.

And today, we've got a Cosmic Queries edition featuring UAPs.

UAPs. And we might throw a little cosmology in on that as well. I got with me my co-host,

Paul Maccurial. Paul, welcome back to the show.

Hey, thanks for having me. Great to see you again, Neil.

So we've got someone who is uniquely positioned to comment on the UAPs.

Just remind everyone what UAP stands for, unidentified aerial phenomenon.

We've got a longtime friend, longtime colleague, recently tasked by the US government, NASA,

in particular, to investigate UAPs in all ways that they might lend themselves to become

accessible to scientific inquiry. David Spurgel. David Spurgel, theoretical astrophysicist.

We have many overlapping years at Princeton University, where he is an emeritus professor.

And now he's president of the Simon's Foundation. But more specifically, more importantly,

for this podcast is the chair of the NASA independent study team on unidentified aerial phenomena.

So David, welcome to start talk. Great to be here.

Yeah, yeah. So you've got your, so how did you step in this?

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