Are religious funerals ’empty and platitudinous’? Ian Dunt & Andy Bannister

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🗓️ 14 October 2022

⏱️ 85 minutes

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The Queen's state funeral was watched by billions of people and marked by deep Christian symbolism. However, during the ceremony, atheist journalist Ian Dunt tweeted that he found it "empty and platitudinous, a cardboard shield against existential despair". Ian engages with Christian thinker Andy Bannister who wrote a response article to Ian's tweet. They discuss the royal funeral, meaning, purpose and what death means to an atheist and a Christian. For Ian Dunt: https://twitter.com/iandunt For Andy Bannister: https://www.andybannister.net/ For Andy's article: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/articles/atheist-says-queens-funeral-was-empty-and-platitudinous-i-disagree/13915.article • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training-and-events • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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0:00.0	It is hard and I say all of this perfectly openly. It's hard and probably harder for us
0:14.4	a lot than you lot when a friend or a family member dies because we don't believe that
0:19.5	we will ever see them again. And when we don't believe that there is any further to that
0:23.2	story. The platitudinous part that you wrote about in that tweet, I get a bit worried when
0:28.2	Christians get a bit too sort of cultural themselves and get, we don't even worry someone's
0:32.3	died, it's all right, they're going to heaven be with Jesus. That is not what the New Testament
0:36.6	frames it. We're told, yes we grieve and yes we mourn but we don't mourn as people without hope.
0:45.0	You're listening to unbelievable with Justin Riley.
0:51.9	Hello, welcome to the show. An Aiki is too tweeted that the Queen State funeral was empty and
0:57.0	platitudinous joins me today. I'll introduce both my guests shortly. This is unbelievable bringing
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1:57.9	today's show. For now, here's today's conversation. Today we're asking our religious funerals,
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